>> planned parenthood has been quite specific about the policies and procedures that they have in place. i know they have described those policies and procedures as living up to the highest ethical standard. based on the the essentially fraudulent way in which these videos have been released there is not a lot of evidence right now that planned parenthood hasn't lived up to those standards. martha: joined by former new york governor george pataki, 2016 presidential candidate. governor good to have you here. >> good being with you. martha: what is your reaction? >> it is ridiculous. based on the way they got the videos doesn't indicate anything. the videos are who are risk. by that logic if we find iran building a nuclear bomb but have illegal videotape it is not evidence. it is clear that planned parenthood had a horrible disregard for life. i don't think they should be given taxpayer funding. martha: let's listen to one of the other folks running for president as well, neighbor here