are not appropriate in particular gay and lesbian. >> it is right to say here is my beliefs and values even if you made stupid mistakes. it doesn't mean you can't be changed. i think the real issue is people are making it sound like it happened yesterday and that it is ongoing. it happened 12 years ago when he was a child himself. so i think seeing the changes in his life we witnessed it. we know. we live with him. jessa made a good point she said you know i think the hard part is here is that our viewers feel like they're in our home every tuesday night. they feel like they know our family. when we are out and about and people are saying hey and we are going hi we are really friendly and everything. we don't have the personal -- so