planned parenthood is a bad seed. it's a seed based on the idea of dehumanizing the child in the womb. just like we've seen every great genocide succeeded by dehumanizing the people you're exterminating. that is exactly the case here. all about dehumanization. it started in the 1920s and '30s with margaret sanger dehumanizing blacks and disabled. now we see it continue. >> this is bigger than rallying the base, sandra. i know pro-choice people who are disgusted by these videos. this doesn't have to do with the women. in fact they're not even considering the patient's choices or options. this is about the murder of infants and gruesome and horrific way they're doing it. and by the way, at what point is this not a non-profit anymore? the non-profit status? this is business. the selling of -- >> a big business. and they should have their charitable status or whatever benefits they're getting from the government reneged because they're making a lot of money. >> you can't defend it, julie.

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