the other one is not that far behind. >> well you know that's assuming that they were in the same vicinity at the time which we still don't know about. but, you know given the fact that matt's dna was all over the second cabin in malone, why wasn't sweat's if they were together? >> that's a good question. and, i mean you could make the assumption that they probably were not together. and, but i think having the shootout there in that area you have to cover all contingencies -- >> sure. >> -- and the sheriff is correct, you've got to cordon off that area and do a complete search and it sounds like they've whittled that area down pretty well over the past 24 hours. >> tell us about the perimeter that's been set up. it's my understanding that you got some sharp shooters on the hard perimeter and, you know the outlying perimeter is a little different. tell me about that. >> yeah. generally what they'll do is set up an outer perimeter usually