matter of what you want to accomplish. are you an athlete or a student athlete? >> like i said very few go on to play professionally, so the big reward they get they really are big guys on campus and they're getting everything paid along the way room board, tuition. so it's a free college education. >> i mean, a normal kid, they get scholarships. so athletic scholarship compared to what the school gets -- >> if you want to pay them, part of the problem is making them better students. force them to learn. don't give them a pass. >> right. you're right. you get there and you take mediocre classes to play basketball -- >> it doesn't help them. what kind of progress are you making on this? >> it's in beta testing. we've got some other components.