washington. you go first. what would do you? >> well, general o'reilly. there are two aspects to this. the first is to try to inat a time what reagan did in the 80's. he took after some of the soviet proxies but not with direct american troops he did it by proxies nicaragua and afghanistan. succeeded in all three. if there are people on the ground, you supply them with weapons. the one thing that's entirely incomprehensible is why are the kurds not being supplied directly by us? we should be running an air lift, a berlin air lift. >> do you want me to answer the question why? >> the os continues cybil reason is have to go through baghdad. >> no, no, here is why we are not arm ing them directly the turks. the turks don't want the kurds to be powerful. as you know a turkish rebellion in parts of turkey.