that a woman who wants to break the glass ceiling should be, now you we realize that she was going to countries around the same time that money was coming into the foundation for these countries. not only were they violating ethics laws but you have this perception problem where baskly now the secretary of state donor travels are donor maintenance. she is out practically donor maintenance is a phrase we use in washington go around patting people on the back wink and nod send a check to you. not directly fundraising. kind of fundraising. this sure is what this looks like to me. >> clearly giving a lot of fodder at cpac. ted cruise said we could have hillary here but we couldn't find a foreperson nation to foot the bill. they are using it as a line. is this an effort by the clinton folks to get this out now so it's not a problem later or is this just really gaining. >> could be a little bit of that. but i don't think this is the way they wanted to get it out. i don't think they planned for it to land this way. i think fundraising the

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