people including barack obama. they believe that america is still the jim crow south. they've got to come to reality. racism is not what it used to be and there isn't a racist behind every tree. having said that, you know, i disagree with bo. this is not a time for jesse jackson to shut up. because you can't shut jesse jackson up. it's time for people of goodwill to speak up and to reply and rebut the racial arsonists like louis farrakhan. it's time for us to say -- >> where are they, though? >> i was on the phone last week with one of the great black leaders, the guy that ran against me for the united states congress, former congressman, the reverend floyd flake out of south jamaica. he gets federal funds, he built senior citizen housing, he does great things. he's a black leader that i want to listen to. he's done great things. as far as race baiting jesse jackson and race baiting al sharpton who tonight on fifth avenue they're having a demonstration when this big bird