best long-term interest of the congress. >> my make of it is subterfuge. they're doing nothing here, so they have to give some aura of activity, that really needs to be an adult in that room, of the republican caucus. >> how serious should the white house take the power abuse accusations? joining us now, republican strategist, ryan derdusky, and steve laser. thanks for being with me tonight. steve, is that the case? >> i don't think. if you look at the judicial measurements of whether a president is using his executive authority, things like executive orders and signing statements, he's used the fewest executive orders of any two-term president, on track to, since grover cleveland. 1897. i'm not sure where republicans are getting this idea that he's misusing his executive authority. >> all right, you see it? >> he has a right to do as many executive orders as he wants, but it's what he's doing executive order on. he doesn't have the right to do