people around lois lerner. immunize everybody and put all those people. she is taking the fifth. i know ted you disagree with me. inactive heb of the bar. still subject to the bar provision. i would file a bar complaint against her. any lawyer knows you would rather have a grand jury on your tail than a bar. >> the problem with a bar complaint it could be out there infinitum. >> it puts pressure on her. right now she is getting a pension and she protection which even innocent people do. >> i think the focus is too much on lois lerner. i think the focus should be on the individuals around lois lerner. i think those are the achilles heel in this whole process. >> kimberly this email about chuck grassley one of the worst things i have ever read. insane to refer it she a lawyer. this is her job. >> right. she is doing exactly what lawyers are not supposed to be doing. i mean, she is clearly on the hunt for deserve groups.