was planning to retire. if he didn't get it he might very well go to abc with -- heading abc. who knows? maybe david muir's successor's agent went -- >> -- muir is not big enough. stephanopoulos is the big winner here. he does all the big interviews and he does all the big breaking news stuff. viewer does the nightly news. but stephanopoulos. >> but he does nightly news. you know, why would they make the switch? >> maybe nightly news isn't that important anymore. the big revenue is in the morning and they needed to keep stephanopoulos. that's why. all right, now. i have got to let you go. bernie did say something that's very interesting about some of the networks wanting younger people. so goldberg and i have booked a cruise. i don't know how long we can hang in there, bernie. i don't know how long. >> i just turned 39. what are you talking about? >> come on, bernie. look at you. you are one step in the grave here. i don't even know if you are going to be here next week.