be true, it is dishonorable. it is disgraceful and i will not tolerate it, period. >> can i take this one? >> sure. >> okay. fine. i will not tolerate it, i won't stand for it, but you stopped short. or else what? or who's going to get fired? is anyone going to get fired? i listened to the whole press conference. he never said that. >> yeah. >> he never said, heads will roll, these people will be fired. they'll be removed. by the way, wait till we find out how many people are stealing money from the v.a. wait till we find out how many people are purchasing managers and what not. and they're lining their own pockets. this thing is just beginning to break open, bob. you can't say it's a few isolated -- >> you're not suggesting that obama knew? >> i'm suggesting if you spend $154 billion, there's a lot of waste, fraud and abuse. >> but the taxpayers bailed out