>> where do you think this is going to go? what do you think about the response from the administration in terms of wanting to crack down and find out what happened? has that been acceptable? >> the administration is defending it and cheryl lied to the media and senator. she said she had no idea about a list and first heard about it from representative miller but it truth is she new about it from at least july of 2013. they are defending this so hard because there is a secret that the phoenix va and washington don't want to let out and that is there is a huge mismatch between the demand for care in phoenix and phoenix va's ability to supply that care. and it isn't the employees, it isn't the patients, it isn't the