whatever other gateway drug we're talking about here. it honestly is a culture we need to be aware of when it comes to students and college campuses and younger. if it's legalized, it will -- >> you know, i don't get the parents that drink and smoke pot with kids. >> nypd, eight years in the narcotics division. a lot of times we were sent out on federal day. federal day, we locked up people for one joint and they went through the federal system to give the federal government dollars towards enforcing narcotics. it was ridiculous. people faced three to five years in prison, which put a taxing on our criminal justice system. it put a taxes on the jail system. in the federal government, as well as the state government to the point where the narcotics division, new york city police department did not enforce the narcotics laws as it related to marijuana. >> all right. doctor, the on person that hasn't spoken yet, dr. williams,