by a number of agencies. and then you've got the energy independence issue which may turn out to be something that will be leveraged by republicans in this debate. so we'll see. we have got to go. karl, thank you so much. great to have you here as always. >> thank you. bill: back live in boston. two minutes ago the elite women are now on the course here in boston and security as you know, is the big concern for the next seven, eight, nine hours, as the city gears up for marathon monday which is today. former new york police commissioner ray kelly, who knows a lot about security when it comes to keeping millions and millions safe. he has got one big concern about this year's race. listen. >> obviously some sort of copycat event, something that looks similar to what we saw last year. again you can not totally rule out an event happening away from the marathon. and i believe that the