rejects and one that got us wondering how does mr. reid know whether cliven bundy pays taxes or not. the author of 2016 book and joining us from the bundy ranch in nevada. good to see you. we don't know how mr. reid knows that or why he is now so very focused on going after mr. bundy. your thoughts? >> reporter: well, it's a very peculiar situation where you have a cattle man, a rancher and he's being taken on directly from the senator and senate majority leader who is commenting not only about him not paying taxes but in some sense accusing supporters and i'm right among them here today of being domestic terrorists. so the real question i think megyn, i came here as a film maker to see what is going on. we basically see an american clash almost like in the old western movies between the loan