with, you're going to take the legs out of our own financial banking system. >> that's what we did with osama bin laden's lieutenants. that's one of the ways the treasury department was able to track people down. >> because they were holding american prisoners. >> i want to get to something else, bob, you said about the rushzs and how they're trying to shape this. they have their own pr needs. greg, let's get your take on it. when russia says they're doing this out of respect of rule of law and out of human rights and the ability for people to live the way they want to live, if you're in russia and you hear that, you're probably more sympathetic to russia than the ukrainians. >> well, that's all russians hear, propaganda. they don't have a free press. they have no idea what's going on. the big concern to me is that putin has one thought in his mind. and one thought only. that is power. we have a president right now that's preoccupied with a plethora of issues in which none of them are prioritized. they're equal fitting and