>> i'm not attacking anyone and i'm being totally sincere. the people who are using skings are ignoring science and pretending. i wish you could. >> you do? >> of course i do. but it can't happen. >> i just think it's sick that the organization that was speaking out about this was a gay lesbian advocate and defenders compared to cancer. >> that's because there was medical testimony that he was literally going to die if he didn't get -- >> die from what? >> he was going to die from emotional torture and he/she had suicide attempts in prison. >> that's what made the case. >> this could be a press tent. >> what about somebody who has cancer. >> continue later. coming up, why foreign policy
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