head on and they've been fine and i think they'll survive this as well. if it's something he feels strongly about that's the way to answer the hypocrisy charge. >> except he's got to not make the nra movie because -- you can't say i'm not going to do violence. he can't make the nra movie. instead he's going to make other movies. do you agree? >> it's a pretty reliable rule of the universe that any time they say they're going to obliterate a movie it doesn't happen. if he wants to change minds and move a movement, he can make a movie about the nra. but to come out and say they're going to wish they're not alive afterwards is ridiculous and doesn't help the income of the film. >> i thought that instead he was going to commit himself to doing family movies for lack of a better word. >> i haven't seen the whole interview. it hasn't even aired. i saw previews and tweets about what he was going to say. i think it's amazing that he actually -- the mask slipped here. hollywood is notorious for having cultural messages and they usually never come out straight forwardly and admit it. >> but it's phony if he's doing it so he can say i'm now the nonviolence guy. >> we'll see how he follows it up. he's got money behind it and high profile people behind him. we'll see what he does. >> panel, thank you. reverend franklin graham just gave us some rather disturbing news. earlier today he sent me pictures of this plane. it was ready to go, a chartered 747 packed with clothes, food and supplies for syrians in iraq. i was so happy that i posted those pictures on gretawire. then a few hours later an e-mail from reverend graham, their