want that if it's going to cost the very people it intends to help? >> i do think if somebody is the only wage earner in the family i think it would be humane to raise it to a level they can cover their expenses. >> there was a gallup wells fargo poll where they asked small business owners where they would fire people or stop hiring people and 64 percent said it wouldn't have any impact on their hiring decisions. so i'm not sure that this small amount of raising the minimum wage would actually have an effect. >> but a third said that it would. that's a significant. >> a minority. >> each if they were in the minority, it still effects them. >> panel, thanks so much. that's it for the panel. stay tuned to see a group of children demanding answers from president obama.