that we begin to pin our worth on what we can buy and accumulate. and he says now we can't do that. because he says our real worth, value, importance comes from who we are. >> you mentioned pope francis, is it just my imagination, it seems like this christmas -- i'm catholic. people seem to be a little more excited -- >> he is a genuine christmas gift, pope francis is he has the world's attention. i can't walk down the beautiful streets of new york and people stopping me saying hey, we love him, you did a good job i'm not even a catholic, but i like this guy. there is a sincerity a warmth that really captures people. it is a christmas gift. and you know the day after christmas, the feast of st. steven. >> happy feast day, a day in