seven fishes, i came from the west coast and i had never heard of it. >> tell me about it. >> it's a huge deal. the idea is you're abstaining from meat. you're abstaining from dairy and the whole idea is it's one day before the holy day. when you hit that holy day you're supposed to be like, now we can jump into it. you appreciate it all. it's holding back. so that's why you're going for an entire fish spread, all right? >> it's awesome. >> you're starting with manila clams? >> correct. >> i have to tell you a lot of people think that cooking fish and these kinds of things is difficult to do. >> right. really easy. the things about clams that's so awesome, they pop open for you. so just like so much fish, it's going to -- it's like an indicator. everything is an indicator. that's really nice. >> you need to make sure that they're closed when you put them in? >> correct. >> when they're open, they're cooked. >> that's good. >> this is obviously not super traditional. some of what i'm doing is not because a lot of times with this male it's just been done over so many times and so you want to