pregnant. a lie is a lie, and the only way congress can do its over sight properly is with truthful testimony and that is why the law is on the books that says if you lie to congress you've committed a crime. >> as the author of the patriot act which lays out the framework for post 9/11 intelligence and surveillance, brenner's call to prosecute clapper has added weight. the liberties group calls this patently false. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect but not willingly. >> less than three months after his testimony, these documents, including a court order leaked by ed ward snowden showed the