on. so it is -- the epploiper-based insurance is a real problem and will go on. it keeps employerses where they are and keeps them from hiring people. that's the first thing that needs to be solved. above and beyond that, get rid of, you know, lower capital gains, get more money working in the economy. it worked for ronald reagan. >> they had much higher taxes -- >> -- reagan actually had the right policies to create jobs growth and until we do that, it's just going to go on the way it is. by the way, qe-1, 2 and 3, one of the largest, slowest recoveries we've had, because the central planners have really screwed this up and they don't know jack about how to get the economy moving. otherwise, we wouldn't have had qe-1, 2 and 3. we'd be far better off if we left that money in the private sector. >> taxes were much higher under kennedy, as were capital games,