crazy. by the time we left we would have hated the people who kept us captive. he was this gentle peaceful man that led the reconciliation process where even the people that perpetrated human rights violations were given amnesty in return for coming clean. >> he's remarkable in three ways. the first as kirstin indicated. the courage that he showed as a captive. that makes him incredibly admiral. there are other prisoners of war and conscious from john mccain who similarly were heroic in captivity. what makes him unique is the two things he did when he rose and became a leader. the first is reconciliation. he preached no hatred of those who oppressed. the contrast one might want to look at is zimbabwe a country