going to break it. there's millions of people going to lose it, at least 15 million, including people in the small business community. many small business people are going to lose their plans too. >> we're going to get to that. dr. emanuel, the "wall street journal" reported this weekend that you in fact were part of a debate inside the white house at the time about whether or not this claim you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor was misleading. this week -- >> i -- >> let me ask the question. then you can answer. -- whether it was misleading. on megyn kelly's show this week you blamed the insurance companies. >> if an insurance companies decides it's changing how it's going to structure its plan that is not the law doing it. that is the insurance company deciding for business reasons. >> but, doctor, the obama law demands that the insurance companies change their plans. >> let's get to what happens in the individual market. first of all, i want to say the president takes very