be indignant, and we have to be appropriately apologetic andçó say we didn't do it and we won't do it anymore. >> the initial u.s. response, peter, of everybody does it, doesn't seem to be holding. let's put up some examples of that. merkel and french president hollande are now asking for new agreements with the u.s. on spying. we should point out that the president had to get on the phone -- hold it there for a second -- with merkel and hollande to apologize. and merkel and the british president are pushing for a u.n. resolution for internet privacy. how big a deal is this in the white house? >> this is hardly the first time we have spied on friends and allies. i remember during the bush admini revealed we were spying on the u.n. delegations at the very moment in 2003 we were looking for their support on the iraq resolution.