to terminate the late term fetuses, a lot of that was bogus and we knew it from the jump. so my question to you is, sebelius comes up there, she is going to be embarrassed. she is going to have to do the rope adope, i don't remember, this, right? >> first of all what's strike something her arrogance. the fact that she would refuse to appear in front of congress is elementary response. she goes a whole week. i mean, if we hadn't had the shut down, the big story of the last three weeks would have been why is she still in her job in it got overshadowed and that is an issue. she is in charge of this. and the reason -- some of the reasons that this thing is a disaster are the political decisions. she had made. for example, the element in hhs which runs medicare and medicaid. the centers for medicare and medicaid appointed themselves the general contractors in charge of the 50, 60, 70 elements in this,