institutionalized under the, you know, statute. then such desperation she went to this abandoned cement plant and plunged to her death. when you look at the emails and the messages that were sent on these two -- >> -- then why would this mother say well, my daughter didn't do it? that was my point. they have the emails. they know where they came from. they know how vicious it was. they know it was going on for years. the family took rebekah out of one school, put her in another school. it happened there. they home schooled her. because once you get on that internet, it doesn't matter what school you go to, everybody can access everybody sees. so it never goes away. >> well, the parents deny out -- not every parent. but most parents would deny that their children are the devil. that the state or someone else. >> not in the face of evidence i didn't believe that. come on. >> you have the denial extends to the point where you say the account was hacked. they use the anthony weiner