program. the voucher approach. what's the pushback on those. >> the argument from the left and union leaders and folks like matt damon is, we need to invest more in public schools. always about more money and less accountability is what it feels like, and they're offer very explicit about that. the fact is holding schools accountable is part of making them work and times you have to give kids a ticket elsewhere so schools realize shy be serving this kid. if that happens through charter schools, that's fine. that's a form of public schools that can be held combattability -- combatable. i fine if interesting shen the left say we have to invest in book schools and then put their own children in private schools. >> i heard matt damon said the public school system in l.a. was not progressive enough for him. there is a more progressive group on the planet? >> i'm not sure that would be my worry. frankly, i heard from readers, if you look around at any public school system, you will find