think -- >> hypocrisy at its best. i would love to hear anyone defend congress could not live under the same laws -- bill: kirsten, can you? >> first, obamacare wasn't rammed through, it was passed like any other law. >> in the dark of night. >> yeah. it was passed. people voted for it, and it passed and became a law. and i, and this is not my understanding of what's going on, and i don't think we really know. it's actually a lot of speglation because -- speculation because the rules have not been released yet, so we don't exactly know what tony -- bill: we're going to find out this week, though, because they're worried about the brain drain on capitol hill and that their staffers will find another job in washington. >> sure. but that's, like i said, so my understanding of it is they basically will be under the same exchanges and they were going to see a slight, you know, they're not going to have quite the same coverage that they had before. now, if, in fact, they're going to get subsidized so that they get some sort of premium health