to the grievance industry. not dealing with the core problems in the can american community. with us now are larue lewis mccoy, a professor of sociology and black cities, city college of new york. all right, what was your reaction to the interview with mr. porter? >> i believe the interview with mr. porter was good on a number of levels. he talked about the ways to work together but i think the importance is he pointed out there has been a historic tension between al sharpton and lil wayne. if you look back to 2007, al sharpton leads a campaign about decency and hip-hop. in fact, his first goal is to say we're going to protest companies that don't clean up their act. immediately he gets a response that says, look, if you don't understand the culture, you don't talk to people, you can't wipe the slate clean. >> okay. that was 2007 and now he's in business with a company that