retreated. i just don't think that the defense did a good enough job explaining and showing that zimmerman's account was credible. zimmerman didn't take the stand. he needed to take the stand to show and, again, to testify he retreated, persuade this jury, he retreated and martin became the aggressor. >> while you are on that point let me go to this. judge ferreira told fox news earlier today he believes the defense had the upper hand throughout this trial but says defense attorney mark o'mara could have been more effective in his closing arguments and also adds the prosecution used more emotional sings during its summation because their case was just as to thin on the law so how do you think george perceived the defense and prosecution during their closing arguments? >> it all depends -- it is hard to say for us watching it where we are not in the courtroom to see how it actually plays in person. it is very different to be there than watch on television. the defense had a lot of -- you