right for one reason. they just want to keep the plans they have, however ludicrous and idiotic and gold-plated they are. that's their choice. but with obama care you can't do that. you don't have a choice. he clearly said you'll be able to keep your health plans. the unions say, wait a second, he can't keep our health plans. in this case, they have it right. >> jonas, do you think so,. >> trying to pay these health care bills, why companies are being run into a lot of trouble because -- so these plans are cadillac plans. they had to get caught. i was looking at the white paper by the union about what their griefs are, and they don't like that lower employees are going to have to basically go into crumbier health care. we need a race to the bottom from the high end of health care. this is one of the good effects. i'm ooanti-union and pro-obama. >> unions used to support obama care. now many of them don't, steve. what does that tell you about