disagree with our -- the conservative instincts, it has to be against race, gender or sexual orientation, but there's been a coursening of society, you could not imagine going to the games 50 years ago and having to worry about. with christie, come on, when you go after half of the public sector unions, it's not trash talking. >> it's reality. >> it's not an opinion that is different from yours, but i think there's has been a coursening of society. it's the same with sexual harassment law. the only reason we need laws is, for behavior that none of our fathers would have have engaged in. >> this is an interesting point, i talked about it earlier in the show. it was on "the 5," you may have heard of it. >> what is the premise? >> there's five people of different personality types. >> when is it on? >> it's 5:00. >> no way. >> that is why it's called the 5. because it's on at 5 and there's