he said they weren't collecting the data but they are collecting all of the data. i mean every phone call is being collected. there is a danger that phone calls could ultimately be used through this type of collection to track your movements basically your cellphone is nothing more than a gps transponder as well. >> neil: a lot of this pre-dates your arrival but the administration argued that senators who were expressed surprises, they knew this was going on. did you? >> i didn't express, just outrage. the last year i was in las vegas and i had classified briefings on this but i wasn't allowed to talk about it in specifics. last year in las vegas, they are looking at -- i can't tell you the real number because that would be in my classified briefing. i said last year they are looking at quazillion phone