i do hold the president responsible for setting the tone. the head of any organization sets the tone. and the president has errors of omission and commission. the commission is that he is running around in 2010 making speeches in which he is attacking tea party groups. at one point calling them tea baggers and another point a series of speeches saying that the groups like this represent, quote, a threat to democracy. that's setting the wrong tone. the act of commission is when this stuff popped up0, ify was exercised about it, he or the chief of staff should have called secretary of treasury geithner and said get the under secretary to look in this. this would be wrong if it's being done and if it's being done stop it and make sure it doesn't happen that people are punished for having done it he didn't do that. >> bill: i want to know what about these meetings and the white house knows. see, this is -- you know i'm a simple man. you are complicated. you are scanned navin. very complicated. >> we look at our shoes a lot.