outages. of cars problems with vehicles and the west. man, moore they have just been in the worst way. >> they really have. and we do know there is a lot of power outages around the norman area adjacent to moore. there was debris flying around in moore and he could see it. of course, it could have been debris that was already debris. >> shepard: i didn't mean to interrupt you, go ahead. >> we weren't sure if it was really strong winds or an actual cyclone of some sort. >> shepard: as you have been speaking i have been looking around the map from the greater oklahoma city area. and i'm not seeing any reports from law enforcement officials or emergency managers or hospitals or any one of an area of widespread destruction. certainly nothing like we saw in moore. i don't see any area where it looks like a tornado came down

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