found themselves stabbing victims as they simply try to educate themselves this morning. i mean, once again, we see hell unleashed on a college campus or a campus, i should say in general. now we've seen six year olds murdered and we've seen college kids stabbed as they're walking down the hall, according to the police, just trying to get an education. but it will -- i mean, i can tell you already, i'm looking on twitter, lars and people are reacting by saying, what's going to be the reaction to this? ban all guns? and of course, you heard that eyewitness, that student who said, we had guns -- we had god, but we wished we had guns. your thoughts on how this plays into the debate now that we are already having in this country? >> megyn, say a prayer for all of those wounded as you suggested, for their family and friends, but this debate has been going on since virginia tech. it was a graduate student at virginia tech who had written openly a year before the terrible shooting there who said he wanted to carry a gun