people who went to johns hopkins who were interested in international relations and international policy. but anne was someone who really stood out for her commitment. i think she was someone who from the starlight wanted to spend her career doing. this as soon as she graduated from hopkins she joined the foreign service and was extremely excited to be doing that. >> bill: she must have been quite an impressive person to get such a posting at such a young age 25 years old. >> absolutely. >> they usually don't send you into those kinds of places you warm up in less intense situations. well, pamla, we appreciate it and our condolences go out to anne's family. they picked up her body today in dover, delaware. it's a horrible thing anne smedinghoff a patriot. our prayers are with the family. bernie goldberg on the press and margaret thatcher. do they still despise her? bernie is next. [ lisa ] my name's lisa, and chantix helped me quit. i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit.