beautiful old buildings turned into a strip mall. you know what happens in some of the towns, you know what would pop up there, the banks. >> tucker: cvs. >> alisyn: pharmacies are everywhere. do you understand the temptation are not wanting something beautiful to then be torn down or turned over? however, they need to figure out how to make up 15.9 billion dollars that they lost this year. >> tucker: it's pretty simple. look, if you're hemorrhaging money take a look at your balance sheet, where is the money going? the money is going to personnel, to salaries, benefits and above all, pensions. >> clayton: right. >> tucker: he retirement and health care. and those are the results of union contracts. this is one of the most heavily unionized work forces in the world and it doesn't work. and so maybe it's time to renegotiate the contracts instead of laying it on the rest of us, we're not getting saturday delivery and the center of town will become a