in the u.s. senate to eliminate those things and do something better. >> greta: even in the best of times, wine tasting express, $640,000, i'm not sure why the american people -- maybe american people think it's a good idea to spend money? >> i don't think so. i don't think -- there may be some wine sellers that think so. it goes back to limited government. we are so out of control we are spending money on things like that and at the same time borrowing money against our children. that is why we are successful on the one amendment on political science. >> greta: did any -- >> everything that we are doing is totally out of control because nobody is watching the american taxpayer's dollar. >> greta: there is something fundamental. not they disagree but they don't want you to be successful on this amendment? >> no.