in the authority of the pope, for whatever reason, and there are many different reasons. so, this pope will be faced with addressing and engaging those people and perhaps restoring or trying to restore the authority of the papal office. >> it's a big job, which is exactly why pope benedict felt he was no longer capable of carrying it out. >> shepard: that's what we are told. thanks very much. joining us no the director of catholic voices u.s.a. also an torn, focusing on religious liberty, including its role in health care. good to see you. >> great to be here. >> it's this feeling of not in mourning as we bring in an all new thing. >> it's a whole new thing. usually this happens after a pope has tied and that's a somber occasion. this time what you see in the roman people, waving flags flagd people waving at the helicopter, great affection and gratitude the roman people and catholics