really defies the stereotype that people who buy into the al qaeda narrative are somehow poor and uneducated, martha. martha: i remember after 9/11, catherine, there was so much discussion how they would seek people very much assimilated into society here. is that part of how al qaeda is adapting to be able to stay here and work here? >> reporter: well it is, martha. if you listen closely to the confirmation hearings for the cia director or the benghazi hearings in january with then secretary of state clinton you heard senior members about of the obama administration articulate very clearly what the threat looks like today. >> what we're dealing with now is the jihadists who have been associated with al qaeda, who have gained unfortunately very serious combat experience coming back to the countries that they left in order to go wage jihad in central asia. so whether they call themselves al qaeda or boca, or ansar al-sharia, they are