>> bill: you met up with a woman chris tee cogan who fits the profile all right. and here is some tape on her. go. >> if you you are going to get something for free or going to work for it and it kind of like sucks you in. i feel like they are hopeless and they have no alternative. >> the welfare system is sucks you in. >> yes. >> and it is hard to get out of it. >> yes. >> even though she is take money she knows in the motivation to go up with 80,000 staring you in the face isn't that much. right? >> she was a very enlightening person to talk to. took us a long time to find her. we found her in a church. we couldn't get anybody from the state or county system to talk to us. we found her, she has been collecting for five years. she was a mother. sheet was married and while she was married she had never worked so when she got divorced she got custody of the two children and had no work experience and couldn't get a job. nothing she could do to make