to get fired as well, you can't do that >> bill: wait a second, when does this stuff hit the fan? only when the people on the outside notice it, and then they decide to take action. the brass at nbc doesn't know what goes on in the editing room, did you know that. guest: i can't blame the brass at nbc for that thing on some afternoon show, they do not know what's going on, they don't take any action, and i can also blame them, as you pointed out, for fostering this climate of unbelievable left-wing fanaticism. i can blame them for that. >> bill: that's what i'm talking about. that's precisely what i'm talking about. they foster this atmosphere where a producer thinks he or she can get away with this kind of unethical behavior, that's what i'm talking about guest: did you see the pal interview this week? what did you think of that?