systems. >> greta: president ford did it with new york in the '70s. there's precedent. the problem is we don't have any money. >> we're out of money and i don't know where this ends. credit to the council woman. i think that's refreshing in politics. usually they're trying to be more tactful with these sorts of things. weesh out owe're out of money. obviously the prison and the democratic internet have some leverage but where does this end? we're talking hundreds of millions for detroit. what's don the pike? california is the eighth largest economy and california will need bailout pretty soon. i just don't think is really going to make it through congress. i think detroit's problems are deeper than any bailout can solve from washington. they have to tackle this themselves. >> greta: it's terrible what's happened in a lot of cities especially like detroit and it didn't happen just last week. it's really rather tragic that a city that has aloud itself to