courage but they were -- >> brian: i know. >> dana: je to follow it. right before we came out, keith hennessey of the hoover institute put out a piece and said he says the president is bluffing. president saying through the spokes people he would veto anything that did not have the tax rate increase. but the economic consequences of that is dire and keith is right, president is bluffing. we'll see. warren buffett thinks it's good business for government to tax the rich. eric disagrees with the oracle of omaha. that discussion is next on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> announcer: meet jill. she thought she'd feel better after seeing her doctor. and she might have, if not for kari, the identity thief who stole jill's social security number to open credit cards, destroying jill's credit