james freeman and mary kissle and joe rago. so, joe, give us a big picture sense here, what are the magnitudes of what we're talking about? many of these are hundred million dollar rules or more in terms of cost, aren't they? >> yes, when you look at the bush and clinton administrations averageded same number of rules, about 45. obama's first two years, that surged to about 66, 63 in that range. and now, we're starting-- then it fell in the second two years in the leadup to the election and this is because the regulators slowed down, it's because they delayed everything until election day, now, we're about to get-- they're about to make up for last time. >> paul: mary, what do you think are the big rules you're following? >> think about energy, particularly epa. they're bringing out billion dollar rules and something we haven't seen before. and it's going to really