safer? no. it was a tactical success, strategically it has been a complete blunder. john kerry at the democratic convention said, ask bin laden if he is better off? here is my retort to that? ask our diplomats and american interests in the middle east if they're better off? bill: want to get to benghazi in a moment because i know you don't believe the fact that these demonstrations were spontaneous. you said that throughout the week here. but even you supported the overthrow of qaddafi. >> i did. bill: supported over throw of mubarak. >> yes. why? because the people, the islamists lost the election in libya big-time. they got 10% of the vote but they're not going to go away because they lost the election. they're trying to undercut the libyan government and drive us out of the region. the people in egypt who are inspiring violence against our embassy are salafists. they got 20% of the vote. when there is lack of american leadership people fill in these vacuums.